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a conversation that took place on 5 february 2025, collected on this etherpad and archived here

http://luckysoap.com/statements/handmadeweb.html

text with some annotations: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12EzZ-mchyb43BTCoBU59HHV-Dedfr0TV/view?usp=sharing

the trAce publication that was lost on the link : https://hub.xpub.nl/bootleglibrary/book/999

- Short summary of the text

This talk/text is Carpenter's spell upon the webuser/webmakers to EVOKE HANDMADE WEB. She casts this spell by redefining web as a medium from her own experience and perspective.

She explains web as a medium has unique properties of archiving, publishing and customisation. Drifting through years of changes of web, the design and handmade properties keep getting lost in earlier versions. This is her suggestion at calling them back. She doesn't necessarily draw a strict line, but instead she makes us remember there was a way, and it is still out there for us to use. Opposite to Jo Freeman stating "this is the only way" she offers options to raise awareness rather than imposing her way of thinking.

She critizes social web platforms or web-builders as a de-personalized version of previously colorful ("bright, rich, personal, slow and under construction") nature of the web. As Doriane mentioned previously in class, hand-making-building-writing anything(online/offline) creates space for learning and even if it is a slower process it is still valuable and fulfilling.
She creates a cookbook of body-presence breathed back into web design.

She mentions appropriation and the links between physical and virtual (body, print) which are also topics addressed by (cyber)witches projects, which is why we use the word "spell" to refer to this text. It also has a magical structure → "i evoke the term 'handmade web' in order to..." as if she's calling an entity or a spirit of the web.

- 1 Agreement - why?

"I shall put off updating my website templates until out-of-date design is no longer cool."

because it is a statement, standing for one's own beliefs rather than complying with trends and social movements - she does that a lot in the text, stating strong opinions about old web aesthetics, not using pre-made tools, etc.

"— the handmade web pages contained in this online archive continue to exist in the medium within which they were created."

I agree with this statement because it also refers to web itself as an archival space and then she continues on to say: "That said, the frames through which we view them continue to change." Which is a fair follow-up which I also agree with.

- 1 Disagreement/doubts - why?

Part about physical body

I want it to dig deeper into the metaphor, the examples she gives are interesting but seem like they could be more developed or questioned. Some projects go in this direction like cyberwitches, to reunite body and virtual. It was written in 2015, the cyberpunk and dystopian tech future stories were there, even in the 1990s actually so why not address the subject more???

"These are not artifacts of a dead web but rather, signposts on a map of a living web pointing to a web as it once was, a web in progress, a web in the making."

We disagree that there is always something at the end of the signpost. We believe and see all the time that when you look back at a 'dead' web page it might very well be completely dead. There are ways to reach to those websites, however if the link is not working, there is nothing on the map.

Could it be that she was talking about how a link no longer working is a sign of something being outdated and a gravestone itself is a sign of life?

- Key insight(s)

- Lingering doubts/thoughts

- How do you connect this text with what you have been discussing so far in the SI?

OWN YOUR WEB PRESENCE -- be aware of the tools you use, the communities you're a part of, what you show (display) and how (position) I think this is exactly Doriane is aiming for and I find it a great summary.

- Select 1 or 2 words for the Alphabet Soup - write their definition

DEAD WEB & LIVING WEB (in the text Carpenter mentions dead web doesn't die.)

"These are not artifacts of a dead web but rather, signposts on a map of a living web pointing to a web as it once was, a web in progress, a web in the making."

ETHNOPOETICS

- Prepare one question you would like to ask the other groups (based on thoughts sparked by the text)

What are some examples of HANDMADE WEB you have encountered and found inspiring/crazy/worth-a-share? Let's put them here: Make a wiki page of screenshots??? collaborative pseudo-web-ring